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There are a bunch of plural glossaries out there, but they tend to be lacking in context as to who created a term, where it came from, and how it spread. So, a few days ago, we decided to amass all the many-selved terms we could recall if not who coined it, at least a decent idea as to WHERE and WHEN it came from, with the idea of making an etymological glossary, both textual and visual (in the style of this chart of musical genres/musicians of the 1950s-1970s from Edward Tufte's Visual Explanations).

Right now we're at around 50 terms, ranging from highly unpopular medical terms of the 1800s ("duplex personality" never caught on) up to quoigenic at 2016. We are choosing to halt our charting at around then, because the genic slapfight EXPLODED with a gazillion terms that we never used and have zero interest in documenting, plus we have no idea which terms get fucking USED with any frequency besides traumagenic, endogenic, and quoigenic. (Besides, Pluralpedia probably has that time period covered better.)

Since our earliest medical term in English we have onhand is from 1816 ("double consciousness," used by Mitchell, and I'm pretty sure he yoinked it from the French) that gives us 200 years of many-selved terminological slapfighting in English. (There are a number of German and French sources from the 1800s that probably influenced the English terminology, but I'm choosing to stick with the language I know.)

Because of the nature of the sources I have, and my own upbringing, medical terms are disproportionately represented, and eventually I'll have to make a judgment call as to what terms doctors call us vs. terms we call ourselves, but that's a problem for future me. And I still think it might be valuable to chart which medical terms stuck around (multiple personality vs manifold personality), and also just to see the docs duking it out in the 1800s, especially since my multi community records don't start until 1986.

So far, the main research pools I've been drawing from are:

But I quickly realized there was a big, glaring hole in my research: the Many Voices newsletter archives, which ranges from 1989-2012 (and also I guess that one orphaned 1986 issue of Speaking For Our Selves). 142 newsletters, none searchable or screenreadable. The thought of manually reading through, one by one, made me shudder.

But then I went, "Hey... isn't Orion Scribner unemployed right now?" So I hired them and they went and OCRed the whole kit and kaboodle! What a public service! What a mensch!

Right now, I am completely exhausted and working on my taxes, but when that's out of the way, I plan to upload all of these files to archive.org so everyone can use them. Three cheers for Orion Scribner!

Date: 2025-04-06 10:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gze
Three cheers! Thank y'all for all your hard work, we're stoked to see the glossary and these files on archive.org! Etymology and how terms cross languages is so fascinating, we had no idea that those earlier English terms got their influence from French and German.

-The Silvermoon Team

Date: 2025-04-07 01:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] anomalymonster
We're very excited for this and appreciate the effort behind this project! There's been ton of terms we've run into in glossaries and tried to research more into, but found nothing. Recently we also tried to track down where and when "fronting" started to be used, but turned up nothing beyond and iffy citation from Pavilion which we tried and couldn't verify. Having the Many Voices newsletter be OCRed would be incredible in general too and make it a lot more accessible!

Date: 2025-04-08 12:46 pm (UTC)
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That you so much for looking, that's really interesting! For awhile we were under the impression it was a psychiatric term, we had no idea it came from the Troops! That's especially interesting that it came from front line, and makes a lot of sense.

What sparked this for me was when we were looking at the Pavilion site hosted on Karitas, while it looks like front was correctly cited, I noticed "Fronting" was credited to Shaytar. We couldn't find anything on their website when we looked, but I also know they have other online presences and I'm not familiar with that outside of their essays.

Out of curiosity too I decided to check alt.support.dissociation where it's archived in Google groups and it looks like it was first used very sporadically around 1996-1998, and I'm not sure if that tracks with Shaytar being credited as the coiner for fronting specifically.

Date: 2025-05-10 10:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lithophiles
They most definitely were not around (in the online multiple community, that is; they're bodily close to our age) before 1990. Don't trust the Pavilion citation. It's just straight-up misinformation and I don't know where it came from.

-Amaranthus

Date: 2025-05-10 10:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lithophiles
Good grief, I haven't the faintest idea where crediting "fronting" to Shaytar came from. We remember being under the impression that it came from "When Rabbit Howls" too, and... well, I'm embarrassed to say we were involved in Pavilion, at least to the extent that we were allowed to be (the people unofficially officially in charge seemed to deeply resent us for reasons we were never fully clear about, though it was one of those "You KNOW what you did." "...no, I still don't know what I did"-type situations, and so we were prevented from editing and rewriting the webpages as much as possible.) We were still very, VERY new to being multiple at that point, though; we'd only been selves-aware for about a year when the Pavilion pages were being written and were in (very misplaced) awe of Astraea at that point. So we bit back a lot of our questions and criticisms, especially once it became clear that anything other than unwavering support would be met with hostility.

...which is to say, I guess, it's been a long time, but we still intensely regret having had a role in the misinformation spread by Pavilion and the misinformed view it promoted of itself. (It was very good at making people think it was this important, elite organization that almost no one met the criteria to join, but very bad at doing actual activism.)

-Julian & Amaranthus

Date: 2025-04-08 08:31 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] frameacloud
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