The Panopticon Cult Leader Shitstorm

[lb_lee]

You know, when I asked Panopticon not to contact me anymore, I worried I was being unreasonable. But their reaction has reassured me completely that no, I was right to run screaming, because I have made ONE public post about them, ONE, you can read my claims yourself, and now they're fucking calling down past cult leaders and trying to team up with them, like some sort of real-life shitty Injustice League.









Really, Panopticon? This is how you handle your critics? Is this supposed to make me go, "Gee, gosh, I sure do regret not wanting to talk to Panopticon anymore, they seem so wholesome and nice and NOT AT ALL CREEPY OR CULTISH" because wow, are you fucking failing. What are you even getting REVENGE on me for, you waterheaded ninny of grandiosity? For not wanting to talk to you anymore? Who do you think you are, some kind of fucking supervillain mastermind? Did you think I wouldn't find out?

I "flipped my shit" over what "my penpal did to get into prison?" Don't be coy, you little human vaguepost, you own the fucking ebook, you read the posts. TRISTAN KIDNAPPED AND RAPED TWO CHILDREN! HE FUCKING BRANDED ONE OF THEM! He persuaded then they were really their roleplaying characters, he fucking kidnapped them from their house in Texas, locked them in his apartment, forced them to perform sexual acts on each other, and BRANDED one of them, all the while sending creepy-ass phone calls to their mom, all, "Gee, I sure hope your girls are found safe and sound soon"! He pled fucking guilty to those fucking charges! This is not a matter of "my opinion," either, YOU CAN CHECK MY FUCKING SOURCES AND SEE IT FOR YOUR OWN FUCKING SELF. I flipped my shit because THIS guy tried to get me to get more plurals to talk to them! He tried to make me into his recruitment agent!

And I'm flipping my shit? I'M FLIPPING MY SHIT? LOOK AT YOU! You fucking team up with the likes of Draven and Tristan Grey, all to get revenge on me for making... what, one post, and you think I'M overreacting? What the hell is WRONG with you? You go on and on about protecting people from cult leaders, you mod a fucking TUMBLR about it, but the moment you think they can do something for you, YOU FUCKING JOIN THEM? Good to know you care.

You think this is a game? You think playing with people like Tristan Grey and Draven is FUN? Do you know what they DO to people like you? You are YOUNGER than the people Tristan kidnapped! You are square in their victim pool, you sneering, sniggering specimen of the Dunning-Kruger Effect! You are a young queer plural who thinks they are way fucking smarter than they actually are, wants to change the world, and doesn't have the sense God gave a root vegetable. You think these people are going to HELP YOU? I dearly hope you are lying about contacting them, because THEY WILL EAT YOU FOR FUCKING BREAKFAST, you stupid child! You are the little bits of turd just barely clinging to their anal hairs, ASPIRING to their assholery!

And you did that to me too! You tried to lick my ass and crawl up there because you thought I could do something for you, because you wanted to BE me, or rather, this bullshit fantasy you had of me in your head, that I'm some kind of David Sullivan of plural cults! Except, you didn't even love that idea of me, did you? You just saw it as a reflection of who YOU wanted to be.

You didn't even SUCCEED, you stupid simpering shiteater! YOU RAISED MY SALES. You fucking got more people paying attention to my fucking books AND BUYING THEM. I was wondering why suddenly people were buying them, and now I know IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU.

Go fuck yourself. And tell wildhealer to take her two-faced Stepford smiling reasonability with her; if she thinks this kind of behavior from you is totally reasonable, then you are both shotgunning wood alcohol.  Also, when I say "do not contact me again," that doesn't mean, "please send your friends to be your interlocutors," now that I know what shit you high school mean girl wannabes get up to, I want nothing to do with any of you turdlings.

Gallifreyan Tradition is morally bankrupt, and so are the both of you, and you're not even COMPETENT!

Comments

[numb3r_5ev3n]

I don't mean to split hairs, but technically a shitty Injustice League is a Shitty Legion Of Doom. 2. D:Just D: if it is any comfort, a confederacy of such toxic people is bound to implode in an appropriately horrific fashion.

[mirrorofsmoke]

All I have to say to this is Dravendingles. Fuck em all.

-Karkat

[mirrorofsmoke]

I'm bringing the popcorn. Do you have the orange Fanta or Mellow Yellow?

LB can bring the pie. :P

-Neo

[numb3r_5ev3n]

Both!

[lb_lee]

There was one supervillain team up based around villains who hated the justice league, and all their names ended in -O. Reminds me of that.

[lithophiles]

So I know I said this already, but dude, I've only been around since 2014 and even I know that's not how to be a magnificent bastard supervillain! I'm still trying to parse the fact that Panopticon think a convicted child rapist is not only more sympathetic than you but your poor hapless "victim," and that anyone who had all the facts of the situation would clearly agree with them. Like, would they line up to be branded and forced to fuck their siblings? Is that like the Republicans who line up to vote for people who want to take their health care and jobs away just to own the libs?

And, like, we lost count of the number of times we were told in ye bad olde days that we were brainwashed and hurting survivors (as if we weren't also one) just by talking about non-DID multiples, or that we're just part of the Evil Iatrogenic Cult Of MPD True Believers. But at least with that, we realized eventually that instead of coming out swinging at every accusation, we should try to let our lives speak for themselves, to show through the way we conduct ourselves that we live the ideals we say we have. (I mean, okay, Pavilion didn't help with that, but we have a chance to make a clean break with all that now.) Same with being nonbinary (as a group), otherworlds, some of us being nonhuman, etc. If it's not a cult and nobody is being harmed here, that fact should speak for itself and not need the defense of LITERAL CONVICTED CRIMINALS.

[mirrorofsmoke]

Huzzah!

In that case, the implosion may commence. So says Neo.

She (Yep, the one here's a girl) also says I'm more than welcome to roast marshmallows on the pyre.

-Wade

[minoanmiss]

Oh great google moogily WTF.

[digitalghosts]

That made my blood freeze as it is a both creepiest and stupidest thing ones could do. 'Enemy of my enemy' principle does not really work when the people in question hurt many other folks and are the worst sidekicks for anyone. I hope that nothing awful comes your way out of this and Chancellor Cassandra realises how their plan is.

- Val

[we_are_spc]

Good gods, they are...worse than idiots.

Like seriously?

I mean, there's nothing else to say to that, though I agree with Val up there.

I'm sorry you're still dealing with any sort of fall-out from this. *hugs if you want* <3

-Fallon~

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, don't worry, Panopticon don't believe it either, unless they are even dumber than this and automatically assume the enemy of their enemy is their friend. (And I don't even WANT to be their enemy. This isn't high school. I just wanted to not be their friend anymore.)

They just want OTHER people to believe it. Seriously, the main reason we left in the first place was they threw tons of accusations with no sources or details, and when I finally put in the elbow grease to fact check them, we realized they were totally reversing perps and vics. We were horrified and left, and now they're doing the same thing with us.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry this is LB forgot we ain't logged in.

[lb_lee]

I know, right? No way in hell would Panopticon believe me, but I'm pretty sure they're hurling themselves into the wolf's mouth to try and get the wolf to eat ME and... That is not going to work the way they think it is.

[lb_lee]

Heads up, though, this is a public post which they or their crew is most definitely reading. Just be aware.

[lb_lee]

Thanks, Fallon. I'm actually okay--livid, but okay. I mean, they haven't achieved anything but raising my income and hurting my feelings, so really, I see myself as coming out ahead.

...the hug is appreciated, though.

[lb_lee]

What's weirder than fandom wank? Fandom PLURAL wank. Then again, how many people get to say they have Gallifreyans out for their blood?

[lb_lee]

I come bearing blackberry nectarine pie, because my friend made it yesterday and it was delicious!

[expressdawn]

Holy wow, we had no idea any of this was going on! I think we still follow Panopticon on Tumblr and have seen them around in other system-related servers. Time to add to our blocklists again

God, I hope they leave y'all alone now at least

-K

[randomspacemechanic]

Hey, you wanted a response from me?

You can have it.

I'm not proud of what I did. But I'm also not apologizing for it. And once again, you have your facts wrong. I never contacted Tristan Grey. I fucking hate the guy and wouldn't touch his slimy, child molesting, race-faking ass with a fifty foot pole. I contacted the Black & Pink office, because my issue is with the violation of what Black & Pink stands for, not defending Tristan's nonexistent integrity. I'm not a fan of Draven's bullshit either. Don't make the mistake that I'm their friend, or even their acquaintance, just because the three of us have experiences with you in common.

Also, as far as I'm aware, you never responded to WH. She's been waiting for a while. Then again, I warned her not to waste her time, as you like your fights big and dirty and out in the open.

By the way, I didn't do this because of GT. I did it because you, as people, hurt us, as people. Or do you just see everything as politics now?

[mirrorofsmoke]

You know. We knew y'all for a while. You are really unhealthily obsessed with cults, to the point that R. had to freaking order you not to MST SecretGallifrey's stupid fanfic. Or at least that's what you told us when you were asking us to MST this crap. And the more I look at GT, the cultier it gets. Which frankly is pretty damn disgusting.
Furthermore you think LB faked screen shots? Really? That's pretty laughable to anybody who actually knows them.
You know, we used to actually respect you. However, we don't believe you about hating Draven and Tristan. The fact you'd actually whine about the pooooor child-molesting pedophile being a victim just makes us sick.
And you're stupid enough to think you can just waltz into this post and have anybody believe you? I don't think so. You're just pathetic. So is GT.
We're sorry we ever met you, and if you've teamed up with Draven, we almost hope they eat you for breakfast and spit you out.

[ex_not643]

I don't think that sharing information about a dangerous kidnapper, child molester and cult leader violates the principles of Black & Pink, especially when the reason why he was imprisoned in the first place is already in the public record. It's one thing to share information about somebody who was imprisoned under false pretences or for a non-violent drug offence, but we're talking about a child molester! Tristan preyed on vulnerable people, and he was continuing to recruit people in his correspondence with LB. I don't know what the hell possessed you to engage in behaviour that even remotely looks as though you're trying to defend a convicted paedophile and kidnapper.

Re: Draven: For heaven's sake, don't insult our intelligence. You probably know full well that Draven would either try to contact LB or retaliate against them after he found out about The Fandom Cults of Draven. You've talked to them about Draven's tactics. He's always been the kind to retaliate and defend his (non-existent) honour, even when he's ostensibly far away from the internet.

~K.

[chaostheoryandpractice]

Hey, I was reading these posts and got curious about this part: "After three months of no answer from Panopticon regarding HIY, we leave the comm, and within 48 hours, Panopticon ban HIY from the comm and make a large post as to why, filled with more thorough abuse and cult allegations. (I have a screencapture of this post, but due to it being locked when created, I will only give this source on specific request to individuals.)"

May I see the source? I don't actually know how Dreamwidth works with DMs or whatever because I literally just made this account because I needed to ask you. I'm sorry if this is the wrong protocol, but I'm just very concerned as someone who used to know Panopticon and didn't know about the July accusations they made until now.

[lb_lee]

I have PMed you the screencap. Let me know if for some reason it doesn't work, or you need alt-text for it. Then please let me know when you're done with it.

[chaostheoryandpractice]

Thanks so much for getting back to me. I'm done with them now. I really appreciate it, thanks for being clear and honest.

[lb_lee]

No problem. I'm sorry for the sheer squickiness of it all.

[chaostheoryandpractice]

No need to apologize. I appreciate the facts being shared, it shows you respect that your readers are intelligent enough to read them and form their own conclusions, and I'm really sorry you're being dragged thru the mud for that

[greensward]

Could I see this too? Thanks.

[lb_lee]

I have sent you a PM with the screen-caps. I've been having an error with PMs lately, with roughly half getting lost ingoing or outgoing, so just to be safe, if you don't receive the message, let me know and I'll try something else. Also, please also let me know here when you're done, just in case your return message is lost. Thanks!

[greensward]

Done--thanks.

[lb_lee]

Thank you very much for letting me know!