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Rogan: What I call "multi" for lack of a better, more concise term is more like an umbrella with a bunch of spokes that together might be best described as "anything that breaks the singlet norm of one person/soul/spirit stapled to one body for life (and possibly after)." There's a LOT of wiggle room in that definition, and a lot of overlap with things like people/souls/spirits WITHOUT meat bodies (ghosts, spirits, etc.), animism... and stuff like conjoined twins' experience of personhood.

So here's some of the spokes of my research umbrella, the shit I have dug into:
  • MPD/DID (where we started, way back in middle school)
  • soulbonding (and other "my character talks to me" stuff)
  • what I call the "medical backlash" multis, who only had MPD/DID for reference even as they tried to throw out the stuff they didn't like: empowered multiples, natural multiples, endogenic multiples, etc.
  • median/midcontinuum folks
  • online communities of the above (though we've long since become outdated and fallen behind; we can't keep up)
  • imaginary companions
  • shamanism (not always relevant BUT SOMETIMES IT IS)
  • various forms of spirit possession (which vary a LOT; the Brazilian spiritualists are not the USA spiritualists are not the voudisants are not the demon-possessed Catholics are not the kinksters...) (this has led to me reading a bunch of stuff that isn't relevant to my research purview but is still amazing, like the whole "demons are made entirely of ill-spent jizz" thing)
  • different cultures' way of seeing personhood (the singlet norm IS NOT UNIVERSAL!)
  • disabled personhood
  • spirit marriage
  • paracosm stuff
  • I don't even know what to call Xavia Publius's idea of meatsuit realness and machine possession except "yes good."
I really feel like expanding my idea of what felt "multi" to me, even though many people would NOT consider marrying a lwa or talking to Bugs Bunny multi at all, was not only useful for learning about how sprawling being a being really is, but also getting me to break out of the teapot tempests and terminology flame wars. I've also gotten a lot out of digging deeper into the past, where the screaming fights are more distant and less soul-crushing. (And also, every once in a while I trip over something old that is still very relevant and interesting--Alma Z., or Gmelin mentioning how he could control Caroline H.'s switches but at times feeling he should give up that power because he got the sense she "needed" to be in her "changed state" and that forcing her into her "normal state" would be bad.)

Plus I'm just a lot happier.

I used to have zero multi books on my shelf. Now I have a box just for research stuff.

Date: 2026-05-08 01:42 am (UTC)
wolfy_writing: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wolfy_writing
I'm curious about how your idea of disabled personhood fits into this. I can follow the connection for a lot of this, but that one I'd like to know more about.

Date: 2026-05-08 02:13 am (UTC)
wolfy_writing: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wolfy_writing
That's interesting, I haven't thought of it that way. Thanks!

Date: 2026-05-08 02:30 pm (UTC)
incorrecthorse: a horse with blue hair and rainbow wings (Default)
From: [personal profile] incorrecthorse
we've noticed some multigender folks' gender experiences also sound plural, and somewhat similar to how our plurality is (we feel like we share some aspects of personhood and not others, making us simultaneously multiple people and one person)... though maybe the "right now i'm one person and other times another" stuff is a metaphor sometimes? though there's probably also not exactly a boundary between metaphor and not metaphor here...

Date: 2026-05-08 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lu_hyperfixates
Reminds me of the queer elder I met who described themselves as identifying with "we/they" pronouns.

Date: 2026-05-09 02:00 pm (UTC)
acorn_squash: An acorn (Default)
From: [personal profile] acorn_squash
And gender stuff! Modern sources for information about Lili Elbe are just, like, "yeah, she was a trans woman," WHICH IS TRUE but if you read Man into Woman you find out the actual story is more along the lines of "my secret crossdressing identity came to life."

Date: 2026-05-09 06:58 pm (UTC)
witchpoetdreamer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] witchpoetdreamer
You know, I never even thought of imaginary companions being linked to DID in their way. My little sister still has them in her 30s (my parents always just brushed it off as her being autistic), and now it makes me wonder if there's more to it (and if it might be beneficial for her to dig into the possibility of her being multi). I'll look into that more for sure!

Date: 2026-05-10 02:48 am (UTC)
witchpoetdreamer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] witchpoetdreamer
Very true! I certainly will keep that in mind! (Also, I'm very much an ultra beginner in all things multi through my ex-girlfriend, so I'm very sorry if I ever use wrong terminology at any point! Got a lot to learn!)
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