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[personal profile] lb_lee
Rogan: In my post about a physical newsletter, I forgot another thing we’ve been considering doing to circumvent the bans: make our digital work free and run it on donations like LiberaPay.

This would likely solve the payment processor problem, because the connection between money and art would be severed; the donations would just keep body and soul together while we make stuff, which people would then vote on to get posted. There would be no, “this costs such-and-so.” The money would be about my my survival, not my wares, and that’s unlikely to piss off a payment processor. (Though nonprofits, like guns and porn, are also considered “high-risk” ventures sometimes, so who knows? But I haven’t seen sweeping bans of THEM.)

(None of this would change how we sell our paper books or do cash sales, by the way. The only ban of our paper books was during the Cultiples backlash, and making the works free and pirateable axed that! So I do have a precedent for solving problems by making my work free.)

Going free with my digital work would still require a host willing to have my work there, but text is among the easiest and cheapest things to host. My fiction could go on Ao3 or Squidgeworld. My essays, if relevant, could go on theanarchistlibrary. Hell, I have an archive.org account, I could slap together ebooks of my writing and shove ‘em up there! I been meaning to do that with my sketchbook PDFs, since what else is there to do with them? Visual art and comics may be harder, but I believe in me! Hell, itch.io still seems to allow that stuff as long as it’s free!

No, the big trouble with the “going free” plan is trust. Can I trust my fans and readers to keep paying me if they don’t “have” to? Other folks have tried and had it not work out. (RIP cohost.) Sad as it is, in America we often have a competitive idea of customers wanting all the free stuff they can swindle and sellers gouging every cent, making “winning” or “beating our opponent” feel important. People can be shockingly entitled about things they haven’t paid for, as though the makers of said things can live off sunlight and air alone. Like city dwellers who think bacon comes from the grocery store, people like this think art comes from the Internet, completely disconnected from the financial realities of life. (You could argue that all-devouring artbots are the logical conclusion of this attitude. If art comes from The Internet, why have an inconvenient artist involved at all?)

Fortunately, our fans haven’t been like that. We have worked hard to encourage an understanding that when you pay us, you’re buying us library research time, toothpaste, pants. We just posted an essay about what we make and where it goes, in part to demystify all that! The people who do pirate our work are generally doing it because they’re having a really, really bad time, because we’ve explicitly told them to, or they want to spread stuff they find useful and are willing to pay in barter rather than cash. All of these are totally different situations than pirates who just want to “beat” the artist. (Those kinds of people, I disapprove of. Stealing from a disabled person on welfare will curse your raisin soul.)

It would admittedly kill me to no longer be able to sell AllFam or Multi Orgasmic as ebooks; that money has made so much difference in my life. But if the option becomes giving it away for free or having no ebook at all, I’ll take free.

Date: 2025-10-06 10:39 pm (UTC)
wolfy_writing: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wolfy_writing
Sad as it is, in America we often have a competitive idea of customers wanting all the free stuff they can swindle and sellers gouging every cent, making “winning” or “beating our opponent” feel important.

Yeah, a lot of people who are being squeezed in multiple directions look for someone they can "win" against so as to not feel powerless. And the person they target is usually not actually one of the people squeezing them, but someone who they can get away with hurting.

Date: 2025-10-07 12:59 am (UTC)
sinistmer: a little dragon sitting at an outside cafe table (Default)
From: [personal profile] sinistmer
Is the payment processor problem confined to specific sites? Or could you set something up where you send a download link or zipfile or something after payment?

Date: 2025-10-13 01:15 pm (UTC)
frameacloud: A green dragon reading a book. (Default)
From: [personal profile] frameacloud
What if you could get your books conventionally published like Maus and Game of Thrones? Maybe it's time for that.

Date: 2025-10-07 09:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silvercat17
People have found ways to pirate stuff off Patreon before (subscribe for one month, download everything, and cancel). There are always bad actors out there, but you've built up a following of pretty good people.

I just checked, and my upload of cultiples is still on archive.org

Date: 2025-10-12 09:59 pm (UTC)
numb3r_5ev3n: Concentric red and cyan hexagon pattern. (Default)
From: [personal profile] numb3r_5ev3n
It really sucks that you are having to make this kind of decision at all. We're in the stupidest timeline ever, and someone needs to go back to 2012 and turn the damn Hadron Collider off.
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