Many-Selved Etymology: role terms
Jul. 8th, 2025 05:18 pmRogan/Mori: Lark of Hungry Ghosts asked me about the origination of plural role terms (which are apparently now this super-rigid straitjacket of How Plurals Must Be?). I dove into my records, and here's what I done found!
It's possible these terms were used earlier than I found here. These were the earliest I could find them in the multi files I have on hand.
Core: This terms looks to originate with Billy Milligan's case, in use by February 1980 in Wallace, Wallechinsky, Wallace, and Wallace's The Book of Lists #2: "In addition to his core self, Milligan has at least nine other personalities" (380) and 1981 in Keyes's The Minds of Billy Milligan. Seeing as Milligan was imprisoned for rape in 1977, it's possible "core" was used in earlier news stories about the case; I'd have to dig in. But Keyes quotes it (and "host") as being used by Cornelia Wilbur on page 50; she also treated Sybil. So: Wilbur, by 1980?
Helper: used by Ross, 1989: "Most persecutor personalities are in fact helpers who are using self-destructive strategies." (110).
Host: first attributed to Wilbur in Keyes, 1981: “the original Billy, sometimes known as the host or core personality” (50). So that explains why "host" and "core" get confused a lot in these things, it's because Wilbur conflated the two in Keyes!
Inner Self-Helper/ISH: Ralph Allison created it by 1977 in Hawkworth's The Five Of Me: "[Phil] was, in the beginning at least, hardly a personality at all, but rather what Dr. Allison refers to as an 'Ish'--an Inner Self-Helper[...] a separate personality whose sole function seems to be to prevent the other personalities from tearing the physical body apart." (20) Allison says he started treating multiples in 1972 (Hawksworth, 5), so 1972-1977.
Original:Wilbur again! She uses it in Keyes 1981 (50) and the term "original Sybil" is used a decent number of times (sorry, my ebook had no page numbers). Flora Rheta Schreiber wrote Sybil, but it seems sensible that Wilbur originated the term? So, by 1973 for adjective form, will have to dig for stand-alone noun. (EDIT 7/10/2025: INCORRECT! This term is older; "original patient" or "original personality" is used by Thigpen and Cleckley (38, 153), so I should dig into older work to see if it's used previously.
Persecutor: Used by Ross (and Norton?) in 1989: "An interesting finding (Ross & Norton, 1989b) was a clinical triad of Schneiderian made-impulses, voices in the head, and suicide attempts. This traid should alert the clinican to the possibility of MPD, especially if the made impulse is self-destructive, and the voice is commanding suicide or is hostile and critical. The triad is indicative of the actibility of a dangerous persecutor personality" (Ross, 99)
Protector: Used by Hawksworth once in 1977 (72), but Keyes uses it more formally, declaring Ragen "the protector of the family" (xv).
These therapists are not little tin gods you should worship. There's a reason Allison, Ross, and Wilbur have controversies about them! (And I'm not as knowledgeable about them as I should be because... well, read on.) So here's some information about that, as a sorta "multi beware, worship not your doctor" thing.
There are almost 500 pages of data about Colin Ross's malpractice suits. He got run out of Canada for them; it's why he practices in Dallas (where I could've gotten committed once, funny story). Unfortunately, the top three "experts" involved with that huge 500 page slab (Richard Ofshe, Harold Merskey, and August Piper) are ALL on the advisory board of the lawsuit-happy False Memory Syndrome Foundation, and the source of data seems to be Douglas Mesner/Lucien Greaves, the Satanic Temple guy who's ALSO deep into the False Memory Syndrome thing. (Of the final two experts involved, Christopher Barden is the FMSF legal representative, and Jonathan Werier was apparently the doctor of the writer of the tome.) I'm sorry, but I don't have it in me to go through that combo. Medical malpractice, PLUS False Memory Syndrome Foundation, PLUS a therapist I find contemptible, PLUS having to critical think very hard about every single angle of that? For 500 pages? I'd rather eat lard. But Colin Ross is a creep who tried to sign up for the James Randi prize to prove he could shoot force beams from his eyes. (And it turns out James Randi was ALSO on the FMSF advisory board, aaaagh, so it's FMSF all the way down.) There's also this interview with an ex-patient, which I haven't girded myself enough to read, but I hear it's harrowing.
Cornelia Wilbur has a whole book devoted to her called Sybil Exposed. I tried to read it, couldn't get through it because Debbie Nathan is a massive creep on the board for the National Center for Reason and Justice (which fights to release convicted child molesters from prison, including ones like Father Shanley whose crimes are exceedingly well documented over the course of decades), but Erin Ptah goes into it here.
Ralph Allison is the one I know the most about and feel the most confident over, because he himself admits to exorcising his patients in 1973 (1999, pg. 77-79), one of whom later committed suicide (93). He has his own very idiosyncratic idea of how DID and MPD are completely different disorders, to be differentiated on whether someone's first trauma experience came before or after the age of seven. He's a kook. There's a reason people don't talk much about him these days, except for the ISH; nobody discusses his Celestial Intelligent Energy or Malignant Imaginary Playmates.
Sources:
Allison, Ralph, and Schwarz, Ted. (1980, 1999). Minds In Many Pieces: Revealing the Spiritual Side of Multiple Personality Disorder, 2nd edition. Paso Robles, California: CIE Publishing.
Allison, Ralph. (1995). "MPD and DID are Two Different Post-Traumatic Disorders." San Luis Obispo, California: Calif. Men's Colony State Prison. Retrieved from https://dissociation.com/2007/docReader.php?url=/index/published/MPDIDPAP.TXT
Hawksworth, Henry Dana and Schwarz, Ted. (1977, 1978). The Five of Me: the Autobiography of a Multiple Personality. New York: Pocket Books.
Keyes, Daniel. (1981). The Minds of Billy Milligan. New York: Random House.
Ross, Colin. (1989). Multiple Personality Disorder: diagnosis, clinical features, and treatment. New York: John Wiley & Sons.
Schreiber. (1973). Sybil. New York: Warner Books.
Thigpen and Cleckley. (1957). The 3 Faces of Eve. New York: Popular Library.
Wallace, Wallechinsky, Wallace, and Wallace. (1980). The Book of Lists #2. New York: William Morrow and Company. Transcribed by me here: https://lb-lee.dreamwidth.org/873671.html)
It's possible these terms were used earlier than I found here. These were the earliest I could find them in the multi files I have on hand.
Core: This terms looks to originate with Billy Milligan's case, in use by February 1980 in Wallace, Wallechinsky, Wallace, and Wallace's The Book of Lists #2: "In addition to his core self, Milligan has at least nine other personalities" (380) and 1981 in Keyes's The Minds of Billy Milligan. Seeing as Milligan was imprisoned for rape in 1977, it's possible "core" was used in earlier news stories about the case; I'd have to dig in. But Keyes quotes it (and "host") as being used by Cornelia Wilbur on page 50; she also treated Sybil. So: Wilbur, by 1980?
Helper: used by Ross, 1989: "Most persecutor personalities are in fact helpers who are using self-destructive strategies." (110).
Host: first attributed to Wilbur in Keyes, 1981: “the original Billy, sometimes known as the host or core personality” (50). So that explains why "host" and "core" get confused a lot in these things, it's because Wilbur conflated the two in Keyes!
Inner Self-Helper/ISH: Ralph Allison created it by 1977 in Hawkworth's The Five Of Me: "[Phil] was, in the beginning at least, hardly a personality at all, but rather what Dr. Allison refers to as an 'Ish'--an Inner Self-Helper[...] a separate personality whose sole function seems to be to prevent the other personalities from tearing the physical body apart." (20) Allison says he started treating multiples in 1972 (Hawksworth, 5), so 1972-1977.
Original:
Persecutor: Used by Ross (and Norton?) in 1989: "An interesting finding (Ross & Norton, 1989b) was a clinical triad of Schneiderian made-impulses, voices in the head, and suicide attempts. This traid should alert the clinican to the possibility of MPD, especially if the made impulse is self-destructive, and the voice is commanding suicide or is hostile and critical. The triad is indicative of the actibility of a dangerous persecutor personality" (Ross, 99)
Protector: Used by Hawksworth once in 1977 (72), but Keyes uses it more formally, declaring Ragen "the protector of the family" (xv).
These therapists are not little tin gods you should worship. There's a reason Allison, Ross, and Wilbur have controversies about them! (And I'm not as knowledgeable about them as I should be because... well, read on.) So here's some information about that, as a sorta "multi beware, worship not your doctor" thing.
There are almost 500 pages of data about Colin Ross's malpractice suits. He got run out of Canada for them; it's why he practices in Dallas (where I could've gotten committed once, funny story). Unfortunately, the top three "experts" involved with that huge 500 page slab (Richard Ofshe, Harold Merskey, and August Piper) are ALL on the advisory board of the lawsuit-happy False Memory Syndrome Foundation, and the source of data seems to be Douglas Mesner/Lucien Greaves, the Satanic Temple guy who's ALSO deep into the False Memory Syndrome thing. (Of the final two experts involved, Christopher Barden is the FMSF legal representative, and Jonathan Werier was apparently the doctor of the writer of the tome.) I'm sorry, but I don't have it in me to go through that combo. Medical malpractice, PLUS False Memory Syndrome Foundation, PLUS a therapist I find contemptible, PLUS having to critical think very hard about every single angle of that? For 500 pages? I'd rather eat lard. But Colin Ross is a creep who tried to sign up for the James Randi prize to prove he could shoot force beams from his eyes. (And it turns out James Randi was ALSO on the FMSF advisory board, aaaagh, so it's FMSF all the way down.) There's also this interview with an ex-patient, which I haven't girded myself enough to read, but I hear it's harrowing.
Cornelia Wilbur has a whole book devoted to her called Sybil Exposed. I tried to read it, couldn't get through it because Debbie Nathan is a massive creep on the board for the National Center for Reason and Justice (which fights to release convicted child molesters from prison, including ones like Father Shanley whose crimes are exceedingly well documented over the course of decades), but Erin Ptah goes into it here.
Ralph Allison is the one I know the most about and feel the most confident over, because he himself admits to exorcising his patients in 1973 (1999, pg. 77-79), one of whom later committed suicide (93). He has his own very idiosyncratic idea of how DID and MPD are completely different disorders, to be differentiated on whether someone's first trauma experience came before or after the age of seven. He's a kook. There's a reason people don't talk much about him these days, except for the ISH; nobody discusses his Celestial Intelligent Energy or Malignant Imaginary Playmates.
Sources:
Allison, Ralph, and Schwarz, Ted. (1980, 1999). Minds In Many Pieces: Revealing the Spiritual Side of Multiple Personality Disorder, 2nd edition. Paso Robles, California: CIE Publishing.
Allison, Ralph. (1995). "MPD and DID are Two Different Post-Traumatic Disorders." San Luis Obispo, California: Calif. Men's Colony State Prison. Retrieved from https://dissociation.com/2007/docReader.php?url=/index/published/MPDIDPAP.TXT
Hawksworth, Henry Dana and Schwarz, Ted. (1977, 1978). The Five of Me: the Autobiography of a Multiple Personality. New York: Pocket Books.
Keyes, Daniel. (1981). The Minds of Billy Milligan. New York: Random House.
Ross, Colin. (1989). Multiple Personality Disorder: diagnosis, clinical features, and treatment. New York: John Wiley & Sons.
Schreiber. (1973). Sybil. New York: Warner Books.
Thigpen and Cleckley. (1957). The 3 Faces of Eve. New York: Popular Library.
Wallace, Wallechinsky, Wallace, and Wallace. (1980). The Book of Lists #2. New York: William Morrow and Company. Transcribed by me here: https://lb-lee.dreamwidth.org/873671.html)
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Date: 2025-07-09 04:34 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2025-07-09 04:04 pm (UTC)I hate it. Eventually I will have to do it, but that day ain’t today!
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Date: 2025-07-09 04:35 pm (UTC)... So, uh, learning that it directly comes from therapists (of particularly dubious repute even) of the eighties specifically FOR cramming yourselves into neat little boxes... yeah, that checks out! It's just... it really figures that's where this particular snag would be rooted, I guess.
We always kind of feel like we really dodged a bullet this whole first year of There's A Bunch Of Us Up Here Now by choosing to stay out of the big bitter conflict-pits that seem to be the plural spaces of bigger social media, and this is just further cementing that, I think?
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Date: 2025-07-09 08:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2025-07-09 09:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2025-07-10 12:03 am (UTC)ETA: Also I suspect you already know this, but I've noticed a distinctly different pattern between the subset of recovered memory accounts where I think therapist-induced significant memory distortion is more likely (disproven SRA claims, alien abduction claims, and cases where the client later said that the therapist was manipulating their memory) and all other claims. The ones where there's the best evidence for significant memory distortion involve things like over-medication, extensive use of leading questions under hypnosis, and extremely enmeshed therapist-client relationships. They're often closer to brainwashing than ordinary therapy.
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Date: 2025-07-10 12:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2025-07-10 12:12 am (UTC)I find it odd that there’s a prevailing community notion of doctors being infallible. Prevalent enough that this post requires a “why you shouldn’t listen to everything doctors say.” Odd in this community because of how divided folks are about pathology and anti-pathology. Just. Very odd.
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Date: 2025-07-10 12:48 am (UTC)I remember when reading a debunking of Michelle Remembers going, "Wait... y'all are describing this person getting abused, being taken advantage of the therapist who married her AND helped write the book... AND you're trying to make it HER fault?" But in American literature anyway, it's damn near IMPOSSIBLE to find decent works on this stuff, just because the Memory Wars salted the earth so hard and devoured EVERYTHING. It's infuriating.
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Date: 2025-07-10 12:53 am (UTC)It probably doesn't help that a lot of people are so constantly told that they can't REALLY be experiencing this, they're just confused/crazy/attention-seeking/wrong, that it becomes really hard to trust yourself! It becomes so tempting to believe that getting the Formal Perfect Diagnosis will suddenly solve all your problems, and that your doctor will save you, and then you'll never need to deal with denial or self-reassessment ever again.
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Date: 2025-07-10 12:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2025-07-10 02:01 am (UTC)Yeah, I've noticed that one of the impacts of FSMF is treating "This person may have been abused and manipulated by a therapist leading to, among other problems, inaccurate trauma memories" like a character failure on the part of the victim.
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Date: 2025-07-10 02:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2025-07-10 10:20 am (UTC)... Every so often, out of morbid curiosity, we poke our nose into Tumblr's #plurality tag, and between all the systems just posting through their life experiences there is a frustrating amount of needless infighting, and so so much of it comes down to stuffing yourselves into categories and getting up in arms about it because that's the prevailing mode of self-interpretation hanging around Tumblr. It makes us want to crawl out of our ears, not least because it feels like the whole thing feels so flimsy - half of it's just reheated transmedicalism, and all of it feels like it could just be neatly sidestepped by everyone realizing you have zero way to know what's going on in another head.
... We should probably, uh. Stop doing that. Unfortunately, habits are tough to break.
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Date: 2025-07-10 12:13 pm (UTC)I don't like roles myself. Labeling myself as a protector when the body was a teen wound up leading me towards self-destructive behaviors because I felt like I had to take the blunt of the trauma for my system. In practice what made me label myself as a protector was because I've been around for a long time as an active frontrunner, my appearance in headspace is large and fits with how nonhuman protectors traditionally look, and I don't express stress in an outward way which makes it look like I'm handling things better than I am.
We also had to put a hard ban on the persecutor label for our system for a similar reason. People kept getting caught up in being labeled as "the bad one" and fell into worse and more self-destructive habits.
In our system as it is now, we do somewhat have roles, but they're not rigid and anything that's important we try to divide between multiple headmates. That way nothing collapses just because someone decides to take a day off.
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Date: 2025-07-10 12:26 pm (UTC)From what I've seen, that also combines with systems' need for selves validation. I've seen newer systems seem upset when they don't have a specific microlabel that fits them, and if you check social media with newer systems, there's a lot of "is there a role for someone who does xyz".
Term coining in and of itself is an entire rabbit hole as well. Some Tumblr blogs will coin dozens of terms in a short period of time. It makes it a mess to track what terms are even being in current use - for example, the -genic label for created systems has gone between parogenic (coined on I believe Discord or unarchived social media) and willogenic (coined by an anonymous message on a very prolific term coining blog) with tulpagenic (unsure of the coiner for this one) being thrown in there sometimes. While parogenic was the leading term for awhile, there seems to be a sudden switch to willogenic, and people on social media seem to barely use terms like created in favor of the -genic labels.
...As I type it out, I'm starting to feel like we should use popular social media less.
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Date: 2025-07-10 03:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2025-07-10 03:28 pm (UTC)Yeah, these days we’re like a dotty granny who just gets to listen with enthralled befuddlement to the Things The Youth Fight Over These Days, and marvel at their originality. It feels like I imagine it would to be a parent to a teenager who’s deeply invested in “cool,” since every school has its own idiosyncratic definition.
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Date: 2025-07-10 03:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2025-07-10 03:31 pm (UTC)Apparently in China, plural groups mostly use Emmengards’ naming scheme of creative, adaptive, etc., which is way more straightforward and sensible. Neat!
Pluralpedia is a milestone I have basically entirely missed out on and never been involved with.
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Date: 2025-07-10 03:36 pm (UTC)Besides, multis have a long troubled history of labeling a headmate bad, when really, it's “they want me to leave my abuser and get a life and are maybe blunt about it.”
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Date: 2025-07-14 08:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2025-08-02 01:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2025-08-02 03:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2025-08-02 05:46 pm (UTC)The majority of daemians don't actually consider themselves plural because their daemons are a supportive mental construct that's more or less "them in a different font" (though a not-insignificant number see it as a median experience like I& do, and there are multis who have their own daes, either one+ for the whole system or one+ for each headmate who wants them). How autonomous a daemon is varies on a case-by-case basis, and it's considered normal and healthy for daes to separate and unseparate freely based on the needs of the 'mian. Basically, it's a Venn diagram of plural adjacency, kinda like soulbonding (though of course soulbonding has its own unique reasons for being not inherently plural).
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Date: 2025-08-08 02:47 pm (UTC)