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lb_lee ([personal profile] lb_lee) wrote 2023-02-14 01:17 am (UTC)

YOU ARE RIGHT (edit: oh god this comment is so long I am so sorry)

YES YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH AND YOU ARE RIGHT.

Back when I made this essay, I wasn't confident enough to clock anything but the ableism of this argument, but now I feel absolutely solid in saying that it's also REALLY racist to force an American medical model upon (overwhelmingly colonized and oppressed) people who already have their own cultural framework for it, as though medical = superior! (Especially since by the time the MPD diagnosis was created, it was overwhelmingly applied to white women, if I'm remembering right. Other folks, especially black folks, would get tagged with schizophrenia instead. Kevin Young even calls this out in Bunk, though he comes to the opposite conclusion of me--he treats multiplicity as a racist hoax, IIRC, while I take the standpoint that no, there are plenty of nonwhite plurals, they just get erased or categorized differently.)

Like, I'm still regrettably ignorant about other cultural frameworks of plurality, and even I can recall without too much strain that Haiti, Uganda, India, Bali, Nigeria, and Cote d'Ivoire have traditions of that nature. (And those are just the ones I have the citations for onhand.)

Unfortunately, we've had white traumagenic systems be racist and/or engage in ongoing harassment campaigns towards non-white traumagenic systems who are endogenic friendly. While saying they're not racist, of course.

I am disgusted but not surprised. You're not the first I've heard that from. USA plurality has a massive racism problem, and I think an antiracist plurality would be a lot less shitty and suffocating for everyone.

There's a deeply concerning trend of traumagenic systems mostly getting their "research" from Instagram, TikTok and Tumblr and a few mediocre websites with sparse and old citations.

*screams into a pillow* Thank you for reminding me why we need to get [community profile] pluralarchives up and running, just so we can sourcedump for all eternity and provide a pool of sources for people to trawl through at leisure, because this curdles my failed-librarian soul.

Yet citing sociological research of our own culture which has established forms of spiritual plurality is deemed utterly invalid evidence.

...I mean, if you have those citations onhand, I would love to further my education. That's exactly what I'm interested in reading right now, even though it might take me a while due to impairment. (I also welcome non-academic sources. Don't get me wrong, I do my best, but I often find academic language a real challenge. Any text sources you have with a solid timestamp is welcome.)

Insisting that American doctors/academics make the rules when American medicine and academia are still overwhelmingly racist is rigging the game so you are destined to lose! People like you are being forced to bear the burdens of others people's insecurities and viciousness, and the unfairness is infuriating.

Yet accusers don't need to cite anything themselves. Not one single recent psych journal.

Gee golly gosh and willikers! Whoever would've thought????

Admittedly, part of why I ended up making essays like this one was realizing that I am demographically "allowed" to do so (and oh, how I hate it). I've still had to barricade myself here on Dreamwidth, where clicking one ticky box can instantly kill any troll campaign in progress. Twitter or Discord or Tiktok would eat my sanity fast.

We're actively seeking wider plural spaces, and generally plain fed up of discourse being shoved in our faces, when we do everything to avoid it.

Well, you're welcome on my corner of Dreamwidth, for sure! This platform is aggressively pro-free-expression and anti-harassment, and I love it for that, even though it's old fashioned and not that mobile-friendly. I unfortunately can't recommend any online group in particular, since, uh. Haven't been a part of any much since like 2011. Though if you're in the Boston area, you're welcome to come to our offline multi meetup! We're hoping to have movie night next month.

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