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A note on the little fandom multi cult leaders… they’re WAY older than you think they are.


The stereotypes of these people–the soulbonders, the fictionkin, tumblr multiples, and the cults therein–is that they’re young.  Late teens, early twenties at best.  Maybe the followers, but let me tell you, the leaders?  Are NOT.  They TARGET that age group, but are way older.

Andy Blake, is of course, in his early thirties.  And he’s on the YOUNG side.  Suhina and their partner system (they go by Kiryo collectively) are older.  Kinjou?  Almost FIFTY now, and he’s leswamp’s ex-partner, so she’s likely around the same age.  Neo?  Was 30 back when he was pulling his shit, so now he’s almost forty.

Which makes their behavior all the creepier.  Kinjou Ten, at the age of fuckin’ 39, was trying to depict himself as an angsty bishounen.  Andy Blake?  Still tries to act the eager gifted novice, at 31.  Suhina REALLY likes to target younger folks–his victims that I knew were at best in their early twenties. (Considering their reputation for sexual violence and their self-professed liking of May/December romances… yeah.  Ick.)

And then you have their art.  These people often try to pass themselves off as professionals, but their skills are nothing compared to their egos.  You’ve got Kinjou Ten’s crappy bumper stickers and paganware, Andy Blake’s purple prose and tracing jobs, Suhina and partner’s godawful gay porn… it’s one thing if they were hobbyists, but no, these are people trying to pass themselves off as much more skilled than they are with the intent of impressing younger people.  Blake LOVES trying to act like the eager novice… but his work is way less impressive when you realize he’s been drawing for fifteen years.

I’m wondering if part of the reason trans guys are so prevalent is because they can pass for younger than they are, and therefore inflate their abilities.  But yeah, young folks, just because someone in the community is older and seemingly wiser doesn’t mean they are more trustworthy.  Be careful!

Date: 2016-05-09 11:51 pm (UTC)
fascination: A yoghurt parfait resting at the edge of a white laptop. (Computing & yoghurt.)
From: [personal profile] fascination
Suhina are in their forties.

Date: 2016-05-10 03:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] manifold
Specifically, early forties. This year they are 41 and will turn 42.

(They targeted us 2008 through 2009, when we were 25-26 and they were 33-34.)
Edited Date: 2016-05-10 03:57 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-05-10 05:28 am (UTC)
fascination: A yoghurt parfait resting at the edge of a white laptop. (Computing & yoghurt.)
From: [personal profile] fascination
Ugh, yes. We weren't romantically involved with anyone in Suhina, but we were *22/23* when they started to pull us into their toxic friendship circle. We know someone else who was our age who went through the same thing; he wasn't romantically involved with any of their system-members, but he was close friends with them. They've been involved with other systems in their early/mid-20s as well.

I can only think of a few cases where they were involved with systems their own age. In one case, one of the systems involved with them was physically older than they were by a few years, though they can come across much younger, both online and off, and were isolated enough to be easily victimised by Suhina despite them actually being older.
Edited Date: 2016-05-10 05:30 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-05-10 05:35 am (UTC)
fascination: 'Carried away. He got a little carried away. This is like saying Hitler was a tad aggressive.'  (Carried away.)
From: [personal profile] fascination
Don't forget that people like Blake, Suhina, Kinjou, Neo and other multi cult leaders tend to prey on socially isolated systems. Most of them are young, of course, but they'll also try and home in on people they see as being more vulnerable. When we were 'friends' with Suhina, we were in a really horrible living situation and it was easy for them to take advantage of our naïvety and relative isolation. I don't think we'd be victimised in the same way now, as we've got a strong offline support system, are more independent and are more aware of that sort of abuser now. (Also, we're almost thirty, a bit too old to be amongst their victims.)

(I should also disclaim that I don't think their victims deserved to be victimised because of their isolation! It's a pattern they tend to follow, where they know exactly the sorts of people to prey on.)
Edited Date: 2016-05-10 05:45 am (UTC)
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