lb_lee: M.D. making a shocked, confused face (serious thought)
[personal profile] lb_lee
In multiples, fictives are members who come from fiction. If I have Harry Potter, Othello, or Bugs Bunny shacking up on my mental real estate, they're fictives.

Apparently, the idea that fictives exist causes people all sorts of upset and outrage. It's used as proof that multiples are foolish children and fakers, causes some strict DID systems to clutch their pearls, and a bunch of other shit I find too tedious to go into. I say tedious because I could not give less of a fuck.

First of all, multiples have been considered flaky fluffy bunnies since the start of the damn diagnosis. We're associated with serial rapists, possession, cults, the False Memory Syndrome BS, and to this day, people STILL argue whether we exist at all. Since the days of Sybil, multiples have been written off as privileged white overly-suggestible housewives. This is just the latest iteration of the same tired old bullshit.

Second, even if you take the most hardline, therapeutic standpoint of multi being only DID, one thing often associated with DID is creativity. Supposedly, we use our creativity to cope with hellish environments, and there are many artists among the multi ranks: Kim Noble, Chris Sizemore, hell, even Billy Milligan painted.

What I'm getting at here is, if you can accept that a multiple might be creative enough to create new people to inhabit their body, creative enough to write books or paint paintings, WHY is it so shocking that we might create new people off existing fictional templates?

We've got that damn DID diag, the trauma history. We have two fictives here. This isn't fucking mystical or shocking at all; we're a writer. We were writing stories as children when we started going multi, and why create whole new people when we could just build off characters we had already created? For the longest time, we assumed all our system members were characters for stories we hadn't written yet; there are some HILARIOUS failures in our archives to make ourselves into characters.

There isn't that big a stretch from having a character from a story you wrote yourself to having Harry Potter. Like, imagine your favorite book or movie in the whole wide world. Imagine how into it you are/were. How many of us wished we could go to Hogwarts? Wouldn't a brutalized child have all the more reason to desire that escape? Is it such a strain to imagine that kid creating a Harry Potter system member, to bring them some hope and comfort? Is that so against the existing DID narrative?

If you believe that DID is a coping mechanism, what better way to cope than to bring in the heroes who inspire you most? Or the villains who make you feel liberated? Why is that such a difficult thing to grasp? Of the two fictives we have here, one was the kid who could survive anything, and the other was a kindhearted man with good intentions. These are very handy skills and personality traits to have in an abusive environment! They have gotten us through SO MUCH.

That fits just fine with the DID narrative I've read.

Now, can we all just grow the fuck up and move on?  There isn’t enough of us to make it worth playing King of the Multi Mountain!

Date: 2014-12-29 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] okami_no_mure
A+ since DW doesn't have a like button. Reblogged you on Tumblr too I think.

Date: 2014-12-29 07:42 am (UTC)
ljlee: (confused)
From: [personal profile] ljlee
I don't get why this is an issue at all. Aren't all alters by definition fictious--that is, they exist in subjective reality not supported by physical reality? Hence the "dissociative" part of the diagnosis? I have no idea why the pearl-clutching should start all of a sudden because an alter is called Bugs Bunny rather than Bob.

Date: 2014-12-30 05:17 am (UTC)
ljlee: (whistle)
From: [personal profile] ljlee
Next big question: How many alters can dance on the head of a pin?


Date: 2014-12-29 08:33 pm (UTC)
ysabetwordsmith: Cartoon of me in Wordsmith persona (Default)
From: [personal profile] ysabetwordsmith
Conversely, all multiples by nature navigate across layers of reality. They have access to headspace internally, and by fronting to the outside world externally.

Fictional characters are, depending on how you look at it, either or both of thought-constructs or people who live in other worlds.

Headspace is a place where entities can go that is somewhere other than the material plane. A meat body is not required to be there, although once someone is there, they can manifest a body if they so desire -- which may or may not resemble any meat they may or may not have worn at this or any other time.

It is not difficult to grasp that thought-construct characters would have access to headspace. Out of people living in other worlds, some percentage may also have such access. And since infinite universes exist, there is no shortage of iterations to go around, so there can be many similar entities active at the same time in different places.

Really, people with a low awareness of metaphysics shouldn't try to handle this stuff. They just mess it up and then mess people up as a result.

Date: 2014-12-30 07:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] weareangels
I know we said this already on tumblr, but we appreciate this post.
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